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Comments on Nice Guys articles

Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 19:50:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Twitmare ""
Subject: Nice Guys sound icky.


I used to think I was a relatively nice guy. Then I came to this site, and now I'm not so sure anymore. I hope I'm not that whiny. Anyway, the site is entertaining, to say the least.


Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:59 -0400
Subject: Male Flame form : Richie

Wow, you're site is so harsh, I like it. I'm a dude, and I probably disagree with 85% of everything on the site, but your "don't give a shit attitude" rocks, so you have my respect on that. I just wanted to write to say something about the thing on how nice guys basically suck.... I thought that sucked. I mean, im a guy so my attention span is very limited, something I'm sure you would have pointed out anyway, so I didn't even read the whole thing. I read enough however, to get pissed. I respect those opinions on "nice guys" but I definately think it's crappolla. You're right, a lot of us do say that it seems like women want to be treated like shit becuase it seems that way. Problem is you got it backwards. The nice guys say it, but know it's not true. They think it, and dismiss it and keep being themselves. The assholes adhere to it like a commandment, and go out of their way to be jerks just to appeal to women in their minds. These are the guys who are insecure, fake, whatever you wanna call them I don't care, I'm not one of them. But anyway, all I really gotta say is you got a few good points, I only pointed out the ones I hated though. Don't waste time trying to psychologically pick apart nice guys because first of all, you should be worrying about the jerks, and second, I garuntee you'll be wrong about a nice guy 3/4 of the time. Our intentions are sincere for Christ's sakes. Anyway, nice site, keep it goin.

[I just love how people can draw conclusions about what we are saying without reading the whole article. Yep. "Richie" of the short attention span is a real winner...]

Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 23:56 -0400
Subject: Male Flame form : Eric M. Smith

COMMENTS: Nice guys a losers who can't get laid unless they shower women with lam as gifts, maybe next time they will grow balls and treat a woman right. WOmen want a Good man, but they DON'T want a NICE GUY....

Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 23:49:26 -0500
From: James
Subject: Great site!

Still not finished looking through your site...but great job anyway! If guys will take your advice they will not only save possibly years of agony, money and who knows? Perhaps even save our economy! A lot of funny stuff, but totally true.

Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 01:16:06 EDT
Subject: nice guys suck :-o

you're absolutely right. albeit i was once a partially nice guy [never did the insecure thing, but i hit upon other criteria] since rehab, i've adopted methods, tactics if you will; the same girls who were finding distaste in certain nice guy practices responded much better to thinking i didn't care and would leave their ass. amazing. now, nice guys eat ass, and im sworn to be an active rehabilitator of these schmucks.

love the site. tah tah.

Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 02:20:58 -0400
From: Seeker ""
Subject: Wow

Great web site, a friend of mine sent me a link to the nice guy section. Glad to see there are men and women out there who can see through it. There are not enough who do, or maybe not enough who are willing to speak up about it. (only way for "nice guys" to change is for them to see the self-defeat in their behavior)

Your contact page negates the question I had though. ^.^ Oh well. Keep up the great work.


--Arnc: A Recovering Nice Guy--

From: "Rentals Fan" ""
Subject: nice guy article
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:04:59 +0000

I agree with what was written and I feel that most of it is true for me to various extents actually. Even before reading this I felt that way and was aware of it, though not pleased. However, one thing you should realize is that some people like this can change, but others truly can not. Some are just born like this and are permanently stuck like it. Kinda like how some are born gay or something perhaps. This isn't a victim thing or a feel bad for someone thing, it's more of just stating a reality for some.

Sure you can sorta pretend to not be those things that were described in the article, which I have contemplated myself, but really then you are just living a lie. Anyone who "likes" you based on your pretending is merely liking a person who does not really exist. They like the pretender.

Just letting you know it is not so simple to just change for everyone. There is no light switch to flip unfortunately. [Life is hard. Suck it up. Nobody said it was SIMPLE. Quit whining.] It's a very real problem and not everyone should just verbally assault "nice guys" into oblivion [Telling someone to get off the pity-pot and start taking responsiblity is a "verbal assault"? Somebody needs a spine transplant.]

for the way they are.

[For the way they CHOOSE TO BE.]

Well at least you enjoy doing it, so someone is having fun.

[Wah. Wah. Fuckin' Wah. My heart would bleed for you. If I had one.]

Just remember, "nice guys" are people too and they are not all some strange life form devoid of feelings and incapable of true love. One day you may very well have a child who is born like this and see that it is not so simple to have him just snap out of it. So getting Judge Judy on his ass might not always be the best approach. I am 25 now and have never had a girlfriend and every girl I have truely been interested in (2, I guess I am not a quantity person) just wants to be friends. I am actually ok with that now and do not mind a life of being single, so I guess everything turned out ok.

-A very handsom and muscular man with a positive self image and zero relationship problems or mental hangups who has all the right things to say to comfort a women and a really long name

[Yeah. Right.]

From: "Dominic Santo" ""
Subject: Thank you
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:50:56 -0400

Wow, I was whining and wallowing so much I never put my feeling together. Reading these pages has clued me into why I feel like I do day in and day out. Your article 'Why "Nice Guys" are often such LOSERS' was like watching a documentary about myself.


Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:47:46 GMT+01:00
Subject: Fame!

I take it that you're already aware, but this is really funny!

[After reading many of the entries, and with no disrespect for the few INTELLIGENT emails emanating form the FARK link, I have to conclude that the average FARK reader has a brain the size of his (flaccid) dick.]

I feel like I've been described perfectly in the "Nice Guy" rant, but the site's great! Keep it up...


From: "Nathan Salloum" ""
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:07:13 +0000

Dear Heartless Bitches,

My name is Nathan Salloum, and I am writing to you to applaud you on your completely head-first approach to the issue of nice guys. Confidence is everything in a relationship, and it needs to come from both sides. I know many "nice-girls", and I myself was once credited as, and sometimes fall back into, being a "nice-guy". When people think that just by being a nice person, and waiting around for someone to come to them, they'll finally hit the jackpot, they might as well be playing blackjack in vegas and saying "Hit Me" at 21. Asking for sympathy that you can't ever get a girlfriend/boyfriend, or complaining that you can't get laid is just absurd.

If you want it, you should have the balls to go out there and try to find it. Heartless Bitches International should provide handguides to all public schools in North America, and be the leading educator of relationship studies - people need to be educated at an early age on how not to be an asshole by being nice. Good on you for leading the way.


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